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		<title>By: Size0</title>
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		<dc:creator>Size0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2013 06:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hi, im 15, 5&#039;9ish, and under 115lbs. Ive stumbled across this blog (which i love btw) and this post at around 2am. I should be doing homework, but this is much more interesting than spanish. Anyways, last summer i went on a diet, i had this moment of &quot;opposite of anorexic&quot; i saw myself as super skinny and wanted terribly to gain weight by my high school years. For about a week and a half i went on a 2500-3000 calorie diet of nutella, peanut butter, cookies, and waffles. To my disappointment i only gained about 2 pounds. Also, because i wasnt getting the results i wanted, i gave up. Other than right now, ive only told 2 other people about this week of binge eating. Anyways, i was born in the late 90&#039;s and therefore im growing up in the &quot;big is beautiful&quot; era of society. Not being big is one of what i consider to be one of my biggest flaws. Ive always assumed that the reason boys didnt like me and the reason i didnt look good in the mirror was because i wasnt big enough. But i tried to justify my weight by telling myself that technically i could be a model, if i wanted. That didnt help. Especially when this photo started to float around. &quot;https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRu6nO1-668zLPTsnsQRwd5oEUlQbmerwqonIKOONtSxrUh4La4&quot; I looked like the top row, and i realized that the bottom row was prettier, sexier, and everything i wished to be. I still wish that i could be bigger that i could love my curves. It makes me laugh though because i think that if anyone else read my body description, theyd probably think that i was a) anorexic b) bulimic c) gorgeous. None of the above are true...I dont really remember where i was going with this though (forgive me, its 2:30 in the morning). But yeah, sometimes no matter what race you are, the &quot;media&quot;  can affect anyone whether they are a &quot;real&quot; size 10 woman (does this make me not a woman?) or not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi, im 15, 5&#8217;9ish, and under 115lbs. Ive stumbled across this blog (which i love btw) and this post at around 2am. I should be doing homework, but this is much more interesting than spanish. Anyways, last summer i went on a diet, i had this moment of &#8220;opposite of anorexic&#8221; i saw myself as super skinny and wanted terribly to gain weight by my high school years. For about a week and a half i went on a 2500-3000 calorie diet of nutella, peanut butter, cookies, and waffles. To my disappointment i only gained about 2 pounds. Also, because i wasnt getting the results i wanted, i gave up. Other than right now, ive only told 2 other people about this week of binge eating. Anyways, i was born in the late 90&#8242;s and therefore im growing up in the &#8220;big is beautiful&#8221; era of society. Not being big is one of what i consider to be one of my biggest flaws. Ive always assumed that the reason boys didnt like me and the reason i didnt look good in the mirror was because i wasnt big enough. But i tried to justify my weight by telling myself that technically i could be a model, if i wanted. That didnt help. Especially when this photo started to float around. &#8220;https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRu6nO1-668zLPTsnsQRwd5oEUlQbmerwqonIKOONtSxrUh4La4&#8243; I looked like the top row, and i realized that the bottom row was prettier, sexier, and everything i wished to be. I still wish that i could be bigger that i could love my curves. It makes me laugh though because i think that if anyone else read my body description, theyd probably think that i was a) anorexic b) bulimic c) gorgeous. None of the above are true&#8230;I dont really remember where i was going with this though (forgive me, its 2:30 in the morning). But yeah, sometimes no matter what race you are, the &#8220;media&#8221;  can affect anyone whether they are a &#8220;real&#8221; size 10 woman (does this make me not a woman?) or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Melinda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melinda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2012 21:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, and I would like to clarify that on me, a size 10 is fat because I&#039;m very short.   

If I were taller I wouldn&#039;t mind.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and I would like to clarify that on me, a size 10 is fat because I&#8217;m very short.   </p>
<p>If I were taller I wouldn&#8217;t mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Melinda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melinda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2012 21:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with the Black women here who said that experiences with weight and body image vary, all based on the individual.

I happen to be a VERY light-skinned biracial woman (black/white).   I&#039;ve been a size 00 at my smallest.   I am now the heaviest I&#039;ve ever been in my life, at a size 10-12.

When I was growing up, I was often criticized for being thin and having light skin.   My cousin, who has been anywhere from a size 16 to a size 24, was considered the &quot;pretty one&quot; in our family.

When I was in school, boys generally preferred girls with big boobs/hips/butts.   I had the hips and the butt even as a skinny girl, but no boobs to speak of.   

It bothers me when I hear anyone attempting to speak for Black women on the whole, because all of our experiences and perceptions are different.   

I have no desire to be fat.   There, I said it.   I&#039;m only speaking for myself and my personal body image.   I don&#039;t want to be too thin, but I&#039;m also heavier than I would like to be.   

I believe that sometimes Black women who are heavy/thick/obese/overweight fall victim to stereotypes because of their size as well as their race.

I&#039;ve noticed that on TV or in films, fat Black women are often stereotyped as loud and obnoxious or as the funny, sassy sidekick to white women.   Kind of like the old &quot;mammy&quot; stereotype.    No disrespect to anyone, but that isn&#039;t who I want to be.   

Shows like &quot;Glee&quot; demonstrate this perfectly.   Amber Riley, the actress who plays Mercedes, is cute and she has a phenomenal voice.   But she is still playing a stereotypical Black female character...the fat girl with attitude.   The one who is friends with everybody but can&#039;t find a boyfriend, while all the other (non-black) girls around her are dating.   

I like Queen Latifah because she seems to be comfortable in her own skin.   She sends a positive vibe.   But M&#039;onique?   Not so much.   There&#039;s just something very off-putting about her.   She just seems trashy to me.  That&#039;s just my opinion, though. 

I know plenty of Black women who claim to love their bodies and that&#039;s wonderful, but I know that gaining about 60 lbs. has not helped my self-esteem.    It has also caused some new health issues.    I have ovarian cysts, my right foot hurts constantly, and I&#039;m always hot.    

So as I said, it comes down to the individual and how she feels.   But I will be working on losing the weight I&#039;ve gained due to depression, illness, and poor lifestyle choices.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the Black women here who said that experiences with weight and body image vary, all based on the individual.</p>
<p>I happen to be a VERY light-skinned biracial woman (black/white).   I&#8217;ve been a size 00 at my smallest.   I am now the heaviest I&#8217;ve ever been in my life, at a size 10-12.</p>
<p>When I was growing up, I was often criticized for being thin and having light skin.   My cousin, who has been anywhere from a size 16 to a size 24, was considered the &#8220;pretty one&#8221; in our family.</p>
<p>When I was in school, boys generally preferred girls with big boobs/hips/butts.   I had the hips and the butt even as a skinny girl, but no boobs to speak of.   </p>
<p>It bothers me when I hear anyone attempting to speak for Black women on the whole, because all of our experiences and perceptions are different.   </p>
<p>I have no desire to be fat.   There, I said it.   I&#8217;m only speaking for myself and my personal body image.   I don&#8217;t want to be too thin, but I&#8217;m also heavier than I would like to be.   </p>
<p>I believe that sometimes Black women who are heavy/thick/obese/overweight fall victim to stereotypes because of their size as well as their race.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve noticed that on TV or in films, fat Black women are often stereotyped as loud and obnoxious or as the funny, sassy sidekick to white women.   Kind of like the old &#8220;mammy&#8221; stereotype.    No disrespect to anyone, but that isn&#8217;t who I want to be.   </p>
<p>Shows like &#8220;Glee&#8221; demonstrate this perfectly.   Amber Riley, the actress who plays Mercedes, is cute and she has a phenomenal voice.   But she is still playing a stereotypical Black female character&#8230;the fat girl with attitude.   The one who is friends with everybody but can&#8217;t find a boyfriend, while all the other (non-black) girls around her are dating.   </p>
<p>I like Queen Latifah because she seems to be comfortable in her own skin.   She sends a positive vibe.   But M&#8217;onique?   Not so much.   There&#8217;s just something very off-putting about her.   She just seems trashy to me.  That&#8217;s just my opinion, though. </p>
<p>I know plenty of Black women who claim to love their bodies and that&#8217;s wonderful, but I know that gaining about 60 lbs. has not helped my self-esteem.    It has also caused some new health issues.    I have ovarian cysts, my right foot hurts constantly, and I&#8217;m always hot.    </p>
<p>So as I said, it comes down to the individual and how she feels.   But I will be working on losing the weight I&#8217;ve gained due to depression, illness, and poor lifestyle choices.</p>
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		<title>By: Heavy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heavy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2012 03:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m a black woman and the whole idea of trying to stay heavy or thick is soooo alien to me that I started writing a blog years ago about my battle with weight issues--primarily trying to lose weight but also trying to accept my body as it was.  It&#039;s still a battle.  I appreciate the men I&#039;ve met who like me the way I am (though I&#039;ve never had a dude urge me to stay heavy) but it&#039;s a double-edged sword for me because I don&#039;t necessarily like what I see in the mirror.  None of the black women I happen to know are fighting to stay heavy either.  So when a piece appears in the NY Times telling the world why I am fat, and it has nothing to do with my experience, it&#039;s annoying.  

Also one thing that&#039;s awfully clear in that article is that the writer is a hell of a lot older than I am.  Maybe the pressures on her growing up were different from the pressures on me growing up.  I was born in Africa (DRC) in 1976, and came to Canada when I was 1 1/2 and my mother has never done anything but urge me to be thin.  She was urging me to be thin before I was ever a pound overweight (thanks, Mom).  

This is all to say, there are a HUGE variety of experiences around weight had by black women and it chaps my ass when someone writes an op-ed that tries to conflate those into one experience.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a black woman and the whole idea of trying to stay heavy or thick is soooo alien to me that I started writing a blog years ago about my battle with weight issues&#8211;primarily trying to lose weight but also trying to accept my body as it was.  It&#8217;s still a battle.  I appreciate the men I&#8217;ve met who like me the way I am (though I&#8217;ve never had a dude urge me to stay heavy) but it&#8217;s a double-edged sword for me because I don&#8217;t necessarily like what I see in the mirror.  None of the black women I happen to know are fighting to stay heavy either.  So when a piece appears in the NY Times telling the world why I am fat, and it has nothing to do with my experience, it&#8217;s annoying.  </p>
<p>Also one thing that&#8217;s awfully clear in that article is that the writer is a hell of a lot older than I am.  Maybe the pressures on her growing up were different from the pressures on me growing up.  I was born in Africa (DRC) in 1976, and came to Canada when I was 1 1/2 and my mother has never done anything but urge me to be thin.  She was urging me to be thin before I was ever a pound overweight (thanks, Mom).  </p>
<p>This is all to say, there are a HUGE variety of experiences around weight had by black women and it chaps my ass when someone writes an op-ed that tries to conflate those into one experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Also, a Response &#171; Expectations</title>
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		<dc:creator>Also, a Response &#171; Expectations</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 22:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] primarily about women&#8217;s perception of their bodies and their places in society. She posted a piece a week or so ago about the pressure placed on African American women to be curvy (as opposed to [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] primarily about women&#8217;s perception of their bodies and their places in society. She posted a piece a week or so ago about the pressure placed on African American women to be curvy (as opposed to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Carol Adams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 17:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not sure that black women feel that they need to be &quot;thick&quot; as they would maybe say, but they definitely are less interested in being skinny for sure. In saying that I do know that black men like curves for sure! Look at Kim Kardashian... Black men LOVE her. My daughter is 22 and black men do double takes because she is a very curvy D cup...with a very curvy behind. Even at a lower weight the curves are there. It seems like so many HS/college age white men buy into the stick thin anorexic look. This is not only my observation but my daughter&#039;s too. Even if my daughter starved herself she would never be that. Enough of thoughts from a white middle aged woman.. I wonder what a black woman would have to say about this... Love your blog.. you are amazing!!! Hugs]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure that black women feel that they need to be &#8220;thick&#8221; as they would maybe say, but they definitely are less interested in being skinny for sure. In saying that I do know that black men like curves for sure! Look at Kim Kardashian&#8230; Black men LOVE her. My daughter is 22 and black men do double takes because she is a very curvy D cup&#8230;with a very curvy behind. Even at a lower weight the curves are there. It seems like so many HS/college age white men buy into the stick thin anorexic look. This is not only my observation but my daughter&#8217;s too. Even if my daughter starved herself she would never be that. Enough of thoughts from a white middle aged woman.. I wonder what a black woman would have to say about this&#8230; Love your blog.. you are amazing!!! Hugs</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 17:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Shyra
OK, I admit it, I was waiting for your comment :-) I thought you might have something to say, and I always enjoy your perspective!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Shyra<br />
OK, I admit it, I was waiting for your comment <img src='http://www.eatthedamncake.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  I thought you might have something to say, and I always enjoy your perspective!</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 17:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@P Floores
Just wrote a post about it!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@P Floores<br />
Just wrote a post about it!</p>
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		<title>By: Eat the Damn Cake &#187; I want a ceasefire in the mommy wars</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eat the Damn Cake &#187; I want a ceasefire in the mommy wars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 15:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] everything is a war these days, it seems. Yesterday, we were talking about the &#8220;war on obesity.&#8221; I even heard that Obama declared &#8220;war on marriage.&#8221; So &#8220;war&#8221; means [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] everything is a war these days, it seems. Yesterday, we were talking about the &#8220;war on obesity.&#8221; I even heard that Obama declared &#8220;war on marriage.&#8221; So &#8220;war&#8221; means [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Deanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 13:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It seems to me that everyone these days is trying to lose weight.  I am at least 10 lbs underweight yet when I go see the doctor or talk to me they assume I am also trying to lose weight just because everyone else is.  I can&#039;t eat what I want because I have certain health problems that require I eat a relatively healthy diet so it&#039;s not easy for me to gain weight.  

Let me say this thought:  People have no trouble insulting a thin woman. One of my friends told me her husband thought I looked terrible because I am too thin.  Do you think I would tell her my husband thought she looked like a beached whale? I don&#039;t think so. People just assume I have an eating disorder and I am trying to stay thin.  

On the other hand, I have to say that when they call very fat women curvy that bothers me too. Curvy means curves..not lots of fat and it seems to be a way to get back at thin women.  I know that a lot of thin women work it really hard.  Some of us are just that way and we might like a few extra pounds but I suspect that we are a small group. 

The pressure to look a certain way is mind boggling.  Growing up I was tall and thin but I had scraggly hair, a big nose, deep set eyes and a big space between my teeth...I was plain ugly.  I never had boyfriends which has affected my self esteem even now. It&#039;s hard to shake that.

So it&#039;s not just weight..it&#039;s everything. Even thin women get the ugly blues from time to time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that everyone these days is trying to lose weight.  I am at least 10 lbs underweight yet when I go see the doctor or talk to me they assume I am also trying to lose weight just because everyone else is.  I can&#8217;t eat what I want because I have certain health problems that require I eat a relatively healthy diet so it&#8217;s not easy for me to gain weight.  </p>
<p>Let me say this thought:  People have no trouble insulting a thin woman. One of my friends told me her husband thought I looked terrible because I am too thin.  Do you think I would tell her my husband thought she looked like a beached whale? I don&#8217;t think so. People just assume I have an eating disorder and I am trying to stay thin.  </p>
<p>On the other hand, I have to say that when they call very fat women curvy that bothers me too. Curvy means curves..not lots of fat and it seems to be a way to get back at thin women.  I know that a lot of thin women work it really hard.  Some of us are just that way and we might like a few extra pounds but I suspect that we are a small group. </p>
<p>The pressure to look a certain way is mind boggling.  Growing up I was tall and thin but I had scraggly hair, a big nose, deep set eyes and a big space between my teeth&#8230;I was plain ugly.  I never had boyfriends which has affected my self esteem even now. It&#8217;s hard to shake that.</p>
<p>So it&#8217;s not just weight..it&#8217;s everything. Even thin women get the ugly blues from time to time.</p>
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